Kung Fu Panda 2 (2011)

I had a good cringe not so long ago when I stumbled on my old list of Top Ten Non Disney Animated Movies.

Some of the choices I stand by but jeez, I’ll probably have to re-do that list entirely. Or will I? Are listicles even a thing anymore? Are blogs? Is anyone out there reading this who’s not a bot? Hello? Hellooo?

Anyway, existential dread aside, one of the big surprises for me was that 2014 Mouse apparently put 2008’s Kung Fu Panda on the list, a movie I think I have seen maybe once and have never had the urge to watch again. I have no idea why I did that. I feel like the years must have Ship of Theseus’d me into a completely different person because I cannot imagine that movie provoking that strong a reaction in me, either positive or negative. And I know that this is definitely a “me” problem. These movies are, structurally, very very good. Like, just put together magnificently well. I get the praise for them. Mostly. Some of the more rhapsodic critical responses to this movie I find a little baffling. Particularly the praise for the visuals. Again, they’re very good. But I came across one review (from a critic who’s opinion I rate very highly) who actually claimed that Kung Fu Panda 2 was the most visually beautiful film Dreamworks had made up to this point in their history.

Uh…fucking WHAT?

If you haven’t seen Kung Fu Panda, it tells the tale of Po, a chunky boi panda voiced by Jack Black who is obsessed with Kung Fu and who, through the power of slapstick and comic shenanigans, becomes the Dragon Warrior, a legendary hero to an ancient China populated by various species of talking animal. Kung Fu Panda 2 begins with a flashback told in a gorgeous shadow-puppet style. In Gongmen City, the royal peacocks who ruled the land invented fireworks but the prince, Shen, began using gunpowder to make weapons. His parents, naturally concerned, consulted a soothsayer who prophesied that if Shen continued dabbling in the dark(powder) arts he’d be defeated by a “warrior of black and white”. Shen overheard this and well, you know how pandas are almost extinct? Yeah, apparently it was this asshole’s fault. When Shen comes home his parents are all “what the fuck?” and exile him (good plan) along with his army of wolf warriors (noooooo, don’t let him keep those).

In the present day Shen has constructed a doom fortress to conquer all of China and sends out his wolves to raid the nearby villages for metal.

One of those local villages is Po’s where he is now the leader of the Furious Five, the hero team consisting of Tigress, Snake, Mantis, Crane and Monkey (which are all of course actual styles of kung fu, which is cool). They roll out to fight the wolves and the battle goes well for them until Po catches sight of a red eye symbol on the leader’s armour which causes him to have a PTSD flashback to being abandoned by his mother. The wolves escape with the metal and Po decides to go and see his adopted father.

So, I really do have to give credit to Dreamworks here, for this series (and, thinking about it, in general): they understand what a sequel should be. There’s no re-setting here. Everyone hasn’t forgotten that Po’s now the Dragon Warrior and they aren’t treating him like a screwup like he was in the first movie. And, as the fight scene demonstrates, he is now a genuinely amazing fighter. His abilities haven’t been nerfed just so we can get back to status quo. I approve.

Po visits his dad, Ping, a goose voiced by James Hong who I now remember is my favourite character in these movies. He’s at once hilarious and really, truly sweet in how much he loves his son. Ping reveals to Po the shocking truth that he is, in fact, adopted which is such an obvious cheap retcon for the sake of drama. No way you can tell me that was planned from the start.

C’mon! They look practically identical!

Meanwhile, Shen makes his move and takes back the city of Gongmen from the Council of Kung Fu Masters who are its current rulers. Shen is a formidable fighter but is no match for the council’s leader, Thundering Rhino. He does, however, have a big fuck off cannon, which levels the playing field (as well as Thundering Rhino). Damn, this bird just does not give a fuck about endangered species.

Master Shifu (Dustin Hoffman) gets word of this and dispatches Po and the Furious Five to Gongmen to use Kung Fu to defeat this new weapon which defeats Kung Fu. When Po points out a slight logical flaw in that plan, Shifu tells him that all things are possible with inner peace.

Insurance scam. Calling it now.

Meanwhile at Gongmen, Shen learns that there is still a panda out there and that he’s headed right for him. Shen is one of the elements of this movie that gets the most praise and yeah, absolutely, this is a great villain. Gary Oldman gives a fantastic performance and the character hits a great sweet spot of being fun, creepy and at times even sympathetic. When Po and the Five arrive in the city, they manage to free the Kung Fu masters but Po chokes in the battle against Shen when he sees the red eye on his plummage which triggers another flashback. All the flashbacks are animated in traditional style, and they are some gorgeously animated PTSD. Top tier. Shen uses this opportunity to destroy the palace and escapes with a load of cannons.

Tigress, who recognises this is kinda becoming a thing, takes Po aside and demands to know what the hell is going on. He refuses to tell her and they fight for a bit which gives Tigress a chance to demonstrate that…yes, she absolutely should have been chosen as the Dragon Warrior, this should not even be up for debate. Mid-fight Po finally breaks down and admits that Shen killed his parents and Tigress moves in for the kill.

She hugs him, but tells him that she can’t risk her friend’s life and that he’s gotta be benched for this op. Po, obviously, is the protagonist, so that’s not going to happen. He crashes Shen’s factory alone which inadvertently leads to the Five being captured. Shen taunts Po saying that his parents never loved him.

He also shoots him in the stomach with a cannon. See that’s a villain, right there. Emotional and literal devastation.

Po ends up floating down a river where he is found and cared for by the soothsayer sheep who told told Shen’s parents the prophecy that set all this carnage in motion. So, in a way you could say she’s the real villain of this story.

“Heh heh heh. I hate pandas.”

Would you believe I only learned that was Michelle Yeoh doing this review? She’s honestly amazing in this (and I say that as someone who thinks her English language work is honestly…a little overrated. Please don’t tell Spouse of Mouse, she will kill me and it will not be a good death).

The soothsayer sadly tells Po that they are in sitting in all that remains of the panda village. She says that she prophesied that Shen would be stopped by a warrior of black and white but that she could not have foreseen what he would do next.

“Uh…what’s your job again?”

Po finally remembers what happened to his people, but he also remembers all the good times with Ping and the Five and realises that the tragedy of his childhood does not define him or his future.

He journeys back to the city and we get a really funny scene where he stands dramatically on a rooftop and calls Shen out…who can’t hear him because obviously he’s miles away on a distant rooftop.

Anyway, there’s a big battle and Po and the Five are joined by the surviving kung fu masters and Shifu himself. Everyone’s kung fu fighting and those cats (and ursids, insects, reptiles, primates, birds etc.) are fast as lightning. Shen brings out the big guns (literally) and Po demonstrates that he has found inner peace. I mean, this dude is full of inner peace. He’s got so much inner peace it’s seeping out and becoming outer peace. And so he is able to re-direct cannonballs in mid-air.

Shen’s ship is destroyed and at last the peacock comes face to face with the Dragon Warrior. Shen is aghast that Po was able to find inner peace despite everything that Shen took from him. But Po tells him that he learned to let go of the past and Shen should too. Shen instead chooses violence and ends up getting crushed by a giant cannon.

Po realises that some people are just assholes and returns home to his father and his friends.

***

“It’s okay, it happens to lots of critics.”
“Sorry, sorry. It’s not you, it’s me.”

I feel so goddamned embarrassed here. It’s a good film! It’s a really good film! It just doesn’t quite do it for me. I dunno why. I’ll give it a good score, don’t worry.

Scoring

Animation: 16/20

Obviously (to me at least!) it’s not in the top tier of Dreamworks but very strong.

Leads: 17/20

It’s such a hard feat to pull off a successful heroes journey, doubly hard in a sequel.

Villain: 19/20

Pure text book excellence. Writing, performance, design. Fantastic.

Supporting Characters: 13/20

I’ve always found the five kinda bland and one note. This movie pushes them even further to the background with the exception of Tigress (Angelina Jolie will never be a good choice for voice-work, sorry) and Mantis who gets some good lines.

Music: 14/20

Decent, nothing amazing.

FINAL SCORE: 79%

NEXT UPDATE: 10 July 2025

NEXT TIME: Not gonna lie. This looks like Ponyo was left out too long in the sun.

14 comments

  1. If it helps, I am a human and I have very similar feelings toward this movie this movie that you do. I think that they set the plot across too little a short a timeframe, which messed up the structure and pacing, but it is otherwise very good.

  2. Kung Fu Panda 2’s biggest misstep for me is giving Baby Po human baby sounds. I hate when anthro stuff does that (Ice Age 3 did that and it’s just as weird there), it’s so distracting and I don’t know why a baby animal sound would be less appealing than the uncanny valley of human cries coming from baby animals.

    I like Kung Fu Panda 1 and 2, but I prefer 1 over 2. 1 has an overall much stronger script, and while 2 has higher highs, usually thanks to Shen (the scene where he sends the Soothsayer away is such damn good voice acting from Oldman), it also has lower lows and a lot of it feels phoned in. It ain’t a deal breaker but noticeably less refined as a whole.

    A friend said it was interesting that while a lot of Chinese culture involves respecting the past and whatnot, Shen forsakes the past (as well as the memory of his parents) and is only concerned with the future.

  3. I agree with you that Shen is the best part of the movie and single handedly elevates it to a worthy sequel.

    It’s also the perfect development for Po. His body’s ready, his maturity must catch up.

    I also really enjoy the golden hour aesthetic the franchise gives to Po. It is at its most apparent in this one.

    However, I believe that you’re too harsh on the rating for the music. I’m not even talking about the score where Po finds the truth. Shen’s theme alone is so oppresive yet completely demonstrates what kind of pain this megalomaniac is carrying within. Another moment is when Po deflects the cannonballs is just cinematic perfection imo.

  4. Kung Fu Panda 2 is where I’d say the franchise peaked and it’s not hard to see why. The different animation styles for the flashbacks, the sheer work that was involved in both making a peacock look good and making him fight so gracefully. And while the Furious Five is pushed to the background this movie does at least give them moments to shine and they all get at least one good joke.

    Funny you should mention Shen being a little sympathetic, early in the movie’s development there was a plot point that when he was born a sickly albino his parents mostly gave up on him and the Soothsayer looking after him is major reason he was alive. Pretty sure they dropped that point because they didn’t want their villain to be too sympathetic after the first movie with Tai Lung.

    Oh, and Michelle Yeoh is overrated? Them’s fightin’ words, Mouse.

  5. I, on the other hand, generally enjoy hearing Angelina Jolie trot out her voices – but only when she does an Accent.

    Her ‘Very British’ and ‘Evil Queen’ voices are particularly treasured.

  6. Also, in all fairness to The Soothsayer it’s perfectly possible to SEE something but not believe it, especially when what you see is a vision of a future not yet come to pass that shows your Special Little Guy committing Crimes Against Sapience.

  7. I have no real evidence for this but I have a theory that Kung Fu Panda is indirectly responsible for the highest grossing animated film of all time, Nezha 2. When Kung Fu Panda came out a lot of people in China were like “woah, this western studio made a movie about Chinese culture that understands it well and is actually good, why couldn’t we do that?” And it wasn’t too long after KFP that China started making a lot of distinctly Chinese animated films like the Monster Hunt films. And as those movies did big business in China they started making more and they got more popular in China and that led us to Nezha 2 doing just absolutely insane box office numbers this year.

  8. It’s hard to say which Dreamworks franchise I love more: Dragons or Pandas. Although most of that for Panda is from the first one. 2 is also very good, and I like 3 and 4 fine enough.

  9. Mouse, having watched KPOP Demon Hunters yesterday, I wanted to say that – even as somebody whose indifference to K-Pop would be aggressive if only one actually cared to notice it at all – that it’s quite, quite entertaining and well worth your interest.

  10. You know, I really love Kung Fu Panda 1 and 2, so I was actually excited when I saw that you ranked KFP1 highly in that list lol. It’s okay if it doesn’t do it for you, but frankly I think these two movies are just excellent, very funny, full of action and heart. 3 is more… eh, and then 4 I barely remember. But 1 and 2 portray Po’s journey in a great way, and it is really great to see him here as a fully realized martial artist.

  11. “C’mon! They look practically identical!”

    That’s not quite true; Po’s not wearing his hat.

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